", "Groundbreaking DNA test rules out childkiller in unsolved murder", 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. "Each case is reviewed periodically. Advertisement. Does his daughter have a son.? "Each case is reviewed periodically," he adds. Moments before being brutally attacked, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater had waved to her mother, who stood at the kitchen window, as she made her way home from Gowerton High School along the long path that led to the family home. Her mother was in the kitchen and . Due to advances in forensic technology, we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case.. Video, 00:01:28The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. I have informed South Wales Police regarding this information to save them a fortune on a wild goose chase trying to extract D.N.A. taken from one of Jones many nieces or nephews in Wales would prove conclusively if Jones was or was not Muriels killer. There are far too many retired people out there who want to write books about unsolved murders, trawling through these records and coming up with half-baked theories.. Sometimes the rumours and suspicion in these unsolved cases does almost as much damage to the community as the crime itself. Video, 00:02:36Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? Take a second to support Christine on Patreon! A much loved, very kind and thoughtful person who did great things for people but never expected anything in return. Video, 00:00:41Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. This means that we may include adverts from us and third parties based on our knowledge of you. "And we know, even though it had been 60 years since it went into storage, that it is hers. There were whispers that it was her stepfather that did it, although I believe John Drinkwater was her blood father. If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. Thank you for the update. A village-wide search was swiftly underway, and at 4:30PM the following day Muriels body was located in a Japanese larch plantation near her home. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. Muriel was seen at 2:30PM, singing as she exited the school bus. Although an extensive investigation was conducted that involved the police visiting every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles and interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire, the case that has become known as theLittle Red Riding Hood Murder remains unsolved. Thanks again and take care. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home she was murdered. Dear Sir/Madam. With the help from a niece of Muriel Drinkwater I pursued my research which led to South Wales Police taking a D.N.A. You will need a male dna profile from a decendent on harold joness family tree. There is no doubt about that.". If true, it could have placed him in the area at the time of Muriel's murder. [12][13], For more than a decade, Welsh true crime author Neil Milkins theorised that notorious child murderer Harold Jones (19061971) was responsible for the murders of both Martin and Drinkwater. There must be other victims of this person as I cant see him stopping. Hi Neil. Forensic scientist Dr Colin Dark said that the stain had been found on the lower flap of Muriel's coat. Some time after speaking to D.S Lloyd-Evans, D.N.A. And we appreciate your dogged determination to get to the bottom of what happened. Muriel Drinkwater was laying on her back, one arm outstretched by her side and the other slightly raised. The police found the murder weapon in the undergrowth near where Muriels body had been discovered. Police are closer than ever to finding her killer, "Secrecy over 1940 murder as DNA offers new leads", "The unsolved murder of a 12-year-old brutally abused and killed", "Serial Slaying of Pretty Women Has New Scotland Yard Confused", "Detectives link Muriel Drinkwater and Sheila Martin murders", "The chilling tale of a man who bludgeoned his relatives to death with a hammer and paid the ultimate price", "The unsolved murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater and the new suspect identified", "Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police", https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Murder_of_Muriel_Drinkwater&oldid=1138738141, This page was last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11. It was the 75th anniversary this year, and still we are no nearer to finding her killer. Video, 00:01:00View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. Jones was ruled out at the beginning of May, 2019. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? He stated he had long been suspected by some locals of being the murderer and was happy to clear his name. OnJune 27, 1946, twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school inPenllergaer, Swansea. Edith Patten had been buried in the old town cemetery and was left behind when officials relocated the graves in the 1930s. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? I then appealed that decision and was shocked to be told that the information I requested had been eaten by vermin or had been damaged owing to a leaking roof. The Welsh policehave also examined connections between Muriels case and a second murder that occurred a mere ten days after she was killed. Former Detective Inspector Paul Bethell, who was in charge of South Wales Police's cold case team, explained in the documentary: "We know Muriel used to catch the school bus from the school to the gateway off the main road which led to the forestry, and then she would walk about a mile through the forestry, along the lane to the farmhouse.". He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. It was also tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. "Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule him out completely as a suspect in this case. Play it now! 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If the perpetrator was lying in wait as I believe he was, why select that certain spot? Hi Neil Are you able to help please? The D.N.A. The case became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder. The unanswered question, however, is whether or not the killer was specifically waiting for Muriel or if any girl or woman who happened by would have made a suitable target. Elizabeth Muriel Greenshields Drinkwater . Find records of Muriel Drinkwater . Muriel Drinkwater lived on a farm known at Tyle-Du at Penllergaer and attended Penllergaer Grammar School. It was the first time he had spoken publicly about the tragedy that haunts his family to this day. 2023 BBC. She was still wearing her school uniform. I have spoken to former D.C.I Paul Bethel and given him this information. I was able to edit the comment for you before it went live. I live on the land of penllergaer woods and I have some information that I think u would like to hear.. how can I get in contact with u to chat.? In the days and weeks that followed Muriel's murder, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. South Wales Police detectives requested the original case file from Kent Police to determine if there was a connection. Video, 00:00:42, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race. Thank you once again and I wish you every success with your forthcoming publication. Even though Jones died in 1971, his male descendants DNA could be tested to determine if he was the culprit responsible for Muriels murder. Video, 00:01:28, The 'smart suit' that is changing children's lives, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. 'Each case is reviewed periodically. A 73-year-old sample semen has conclusively disproved the theory Harold Jones was the killer of 12-year-old schoolgirl Muriel Drinkwater, Get the latest court and crime news from WalesOnline. There was another murder in 1943. Jones, originally of Abertillery, South Wales, is a suspect in the killings of six women in London in the 1960s. I am making a F.O.I. It became known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder - but who killed Muriel Drinkwater? Muriel was seen at 2:30PM, singing as she exited the school bus. As manager of this memorial you can add or update the memorial using the Edit button below. Talk about a case hitting close to home for you! And police now hope a stain on Muriel's coat will. In the days and weeks that followed, police officers visited every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles, along with interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire. In fact, it was recently used to identifyJoseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer who is thought to be responsible for at least a dozen murders and 50 rapes in the 1970s and 1980s in the United States. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. Its amazing the documentary could screw things up so much. VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED. And if you want to write a guest post that covers the update for distribution on the website, let us know. to have gone on to kill six women in London in the 1960s - and was dubbed Jack The Stripper. Would you be able to tell me please if Harries has been cleared of Muriels murder as well. Importantly, though, the DNA results cleared Hoyles of any involvement in Muriels murder. Arrested once again, Jones this time pleaded guilty to the charge of murder at aMonmouthcourt in November 1921. She was buried at St David's Church in Penllergaer. Hi. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. But when they tested a stain on Muriel's coat it did not come up with a link to child murderer Harold Jones - who is also suspected of being a serial killer dubbed Jack the Stripper. The True Crime Files It is one of the oldest active cold cases in the United Kingdom. Also, as I understand matters, members of Muriels family have given DNA samples to ascertain whether Muriels father may have killed her. Photo added by Tracey. Posted by 8 minutes ago. The electoral register having been suspended because of the war means details are hazy about where he ended up - although he did eventually resurface in South London under the name Harry Stevens, leading some to believe he was also Jack The Stripper - the serial killer who battered and strangled a number of women across the capital during the 1960s. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. [18] The public can no longer access the Drinkwater files by Freedom of Information Act requests or in person at the archives office in Kew. I personally think whoever did it was a true psychopath and he would probably of done something like it before and has done other crimes since. Fingers crossed that one day a DNA match can give us the breakthrough needed to solve this case. "[4] Police also circulated photos of the United States Army-issued gun; notably, perspex had been used to modernise the original wooden stocks next to the grip. Thank you so much for this detailed update. The police have DNA but keep any results they may have a closely guarded secret. I really appreciate how youre helping keep the true crime community informed on whats going on behind the scenes in this frustrating and heartbreaking case. Drinkwater, a 12-year-old schoolgirl, was raped and shot in the woods in Penllergaer, Swansea. This murder shook the village and all the boys came under suspicion. Her mother later went to the village to look for her when she did not return home; more than a dozen men from the area began a search. Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. Learn more about managing a memorial . The Photo Request has been fulfilled. But the mystery doesn't end there and the team want to unlock the mystery behind a book belonging to Muriel that turned up in a charity shop decades after her death. Thanks again! In the programme, former Dyfed Powys chief constable Jackie Roberts travelled to met him and he told her how his grandparents (Muriel's parents) had changed after the murder. I have requested information regarding the cost of the re-investigation of Muriels murder since 2008. I have a special interest in this case as I too was brought up in Penllergaer. I really appreciate your local insights. will do what you suggest. We could see it [had been] in a police station, but as it closed, where did it go next? Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret ( ne Morgans) Drinkwater. Sometime later that afternoon, Muriels mother Margaret glanced out of her kitchen window and noticed Muriel approaching their property from approximately 400 yards away. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. DNA was found on evidence & matched a man already in prison. South Wales Police said: "All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as cold cases, are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. There were soldiers still in the area after the war and they used to train in Penllergaer woods. SOUTH Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has been investigating the murder of 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwater whose body was found in Penllergaer Woods, Swansea in 1946. However, a lack of hard evidence would later see him freed. Pinterest. D.S. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA Daily Mail article, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder Sword and Scale article, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police The Sunday Times article. Although he was first registered at Widdows Fulham address at Hestercombe Avenue in 1947 as Harold Jones, the following years and up until 1962 he was registered as Harry Stevens. I received the following letter from D.C. Paul Rogers on 6 December 2007. [11] Hoyles, who saw Drinkwater after buying eggs at her parents' farm, was cleared by the DNA evidence. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. You are talking about 74 years ago now and nothing has been able to close the matter.". Police believe 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. Unless he bludgeoned first then he raped, this would have caught her by surprise. Video, 00:00:41, Watch Kate beat William in spin class endurance race, Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story. Paul.. 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Harries bludgeoned two of his relatives to death with a hammer when they wouldn't let him borrow their car. Video, 00:01:00, View from the cockpit of a Ukraine combat helicopter. He stated that I was barking up the wrong tree regarding Harold Jones having killed Muriel and finished by saying Happy Hunting before slamming the phone down on me. Accountant Graham Wildin built an incredible 10,000sq/ft leisure complex - which has a bowling alley, casino, a cinema and more - at the back of his home. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='ADDRESS';ftypes[3]='address';fnames[4]='PHONE';ftypes[4]='phone';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Liked it? Trump rages at Mark Zuckerberg amid claims group linked to Facebook boss gave $2 million to Georgia elections board - and says Dems are 'trying to steal a SECOND election'. It was believed a similar weapon had been used in the murder of a cinema manager in Bristol. Murder of 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater in 1946 is being probed 73 years later Police thought a stain on Muriel's coat would link death to Harold Jones But they have now confirmed a test. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater (Welsh: Llofruddiaeth Muriel Drinkwater),[2] also known as the Little Red Riding Hood murder, is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. She had been attacked on the lane and then she was dragged to where the body was left.". He also fixates on the fact that he is married to a younger woman, that she is five years younger than him, that she started going out with him when she was still in school. Mudgee General Cemetery. An amazing campaign by Neil Milkins, but unfortunately, no breakthrough for Muriel. Click hereto hear the Audio File of this case. Fifteen days later, Jones murdered 11-year-old neighbour Florence Little too, hiding her body in the attic of his parents' home. "My grandparents changed completely. And shockingly the reply was that the information I requested was in written format and would take at least 16 hours at a cost of more than 450 to supply and my request was denied. Evernote. In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest one in the world to . The gym is tucked away in an unsuspecting industrial estate in the Swansea Valley and is run by a world-champion strongman who wants as many people as possible to feel included in his beloved sport. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. "She lost sight of her for a few moments. Then for 3 years he was registered at Colinette Road Putney as Harry Stevens. 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